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Uty
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 9:19 am Reply with quoteBack to top

the worst thing in the world is a fucking client who can't figure out what he wants. and they say "you figure it out." and then they say "this isn't what we wanted."

FUCK YOU!


(I'm sure many of you can relate.)

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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 10:11 am Reply with quoteBack to top

And this is why I was thrilled to be laid off last year and leave computers behind.

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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 10:58 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Uty wrote:
the worst thing in the world is a fucking client who can't figure out what he wants. and they say "you figure it out." and then they say "this isn't what we wanted."

FUCK YOU!


(I'm sure many of you can relate.)


Classic. I feel you're pain manno Sad

Anyway this is one of the ideas behind iterative development. The hope is that with a large number of small releases you can get the FUCKINGMOR\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h customer to tell you what they do and don't like at a point where you can accommodate them.
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 12:05 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Uty, we handle that comment at our company one of two ways:

1. we either require documentation on design specification up front and if they say, that isn't what we want; we pull up the document stating that they asked for it.

2. we go ahead and program, making notes of the comment and first attempt, CC'ing them on the email; then we hit them with a change-order when they make the comment, that isn't what we wanted.

Either way, you have documentation. I would recommend that when they make this comment to you in the future, you email your supervisor, yourself, them, and project folder with the information, the proposed methodology, and what it is referencing. People will spend more attention when they have something put into writing and it covers your ass.

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Uty
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 1:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

What ends up happening is you get them to commit to a document and then they say "that isn't what we wanted." This happens *all* the time. I once had a design doc with a two page section devoted to user mapping functionality. (Log in as UserA on SystemA, integration looks up how UserA is mapped, logs on as UserB on SystemB.) During the installation they say "oh, we didn't want that."

Fucking idiots.

And these people are in charge of your health care, by the way.

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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 1:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

yeah...dont get me started on stuff I've seen state employees pull
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 9:00 am Reply with quoteBack to top

More from the trenches. I write a lot of integrations. It's basically a little program that through COM or Windows Messages makes two applications work together. Yesterday I was supposed to install an integration between software a version y and software b version z. They had version x of software a. They were told to buy version y so the integration would work. They bought it, but did not seem to know that they had to perform the upgrade. (Who needs competent employees when you can spend a million dollars building a breathtaking front lobby?)

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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 12:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Different people, shall we say People A, want and design the lobby, other people, called People B, maintain the IT department. You cannot compare people A and people B. They would both be clueless to each other's respective jobs.

You just found that People B are clueless on both job counts.

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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 12:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I think People B were hired from the bargain bin because People A used all the hospital's money. Smile

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