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Nena
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hey people. For one of my grad school courses in the Sociology of Violence, I'm supposed to investigate violent video games and/or toys. This is difficult for me, since my gaming skills stop somewhere around the Tetris level. I married Blair, so I hope it's obvious that I don't think gamers are complete violent freaks. So I'm interested- what does everybody in the techhouse community think about video game violence? Does playing violent games make you more violent, or less, or what?
I would be using your responses only to make points in class, I would do it totally anonymously, and if anybody doesn't want me to use what they say in class, just say so in your response. Otherwise, by replying you're agreeing that I can repeat your opinion in class.
Thanks for whatever you can give me, and if your input makes a splash I'll post the class's reactions later.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:12 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

for me, taking out your anger on a video game is a far better choice than taking it out on a person. i know when i had a bad day at UD i used to love to go to Grottos, drink, and play area 51 and kill lots of aliens/bad guys. (damn Grottos for taking that game away!) in the end i felt better and it helped take my mind off of my real problems.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

i agree... in relatively healthy people video games can be a totally fine fantasy/way to take out your anger on the world. i think it's the totally imbalanced people that have the issue of distinguishing between reality and video games and those are the ones that end up committing acts of violence and blaming it on the video games.

(and when i say imbalanced, i mean seriously imbalanced, not the way that all you people are psycho Razz)
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

My playing video games has not made me a more violent person in any way. And if you disagree with me I'll fucking kill you.

Seriously though, the only people who think video games make you more violent are the retards who try bottling their emotions their whole life then wonder why they have anger issues. If you have a healthy outlet for your aggresive tendencies then you are better off than most. Though I have been around people who have the violent hobby of the martial arts for most of my life, they are among the most reserved non-violent people I could ever imagine. Understanding violence is a far cry from actually using it.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 11:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

i'm somewhat violent (when i'm riled up and/or off my adderall) and i rarely played video games... how does that factor in? huh? HUH?!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 6:48 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Video-game violence and real-life violence share nothing in my opinion. I have known ultra-Christian families whose children couldn't watch anything past Happy Days and Leave it to Beaver, play NO video-games, read only church-approved "literature," and they STILL turned out to be raving psychotics. It's not what you do, it's how you're brought up!!

My parents taught me values growing up and I've played some severely violent video-games, watched completely bloody movies, and read Stephen King since I could read. I haven't committed any violent crimes yet and I think I'm the second oldest person here. My parents instilled thought before action and consequences had to be dealt with. We are an Irish-Catholic family, so religion was a part of my life, but not every day mass-at-daybreak stuff. All that being said, I've only been in 1 fight my entire life and THAT was a dumb childhood thing.

So, to sum up: The "link" between violent gaming and violent behavior is bullshit. Look for their upbringing and how THAT screwed them up instead.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 8:50 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Some of my proudest gamer moments came from watching my little brother (about 11 at the time) laughing hystericly as he shot foolish pedestrians with his high powered sniper rifle in GTA3. Video games show us just how absurd violence really is, and that it's not something for a sane person to either to act out or to be afraid of. I dont see it contributing to more violence. I dont see it as an outlet(for actual behavior). I see it as a positive influence on our mental well being and culture in general.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:17 am Reply with quoteBack to top

bjciii wrote:
It's not what you do, it's how you're brought up!!

So, to sum up: The "link" between violent gaming and violent behavior is bullshit. Look for their upbringing and how THAT screwed them up instead.


very true! i was always taught not to hit. whenever my sibs and i would fight, we would just wrestle til we were tuckered out. never any punching. i only got into one fight ever and it was a silly thing when i was like 11 y.o. (and occasionally brian when he's stupid) Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:17 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I only got violent when my Tetris blocks didn't fall the way I wanted them too Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:08 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Nena wrote:
I married Blair, so I hope it's obvious that I don't think gamers are complete violent freaks.

No, you know it for a fact, first hand...

Nena wrote:
So I'm interested- what does everybody in the techhouse community think about video game violence? Does playing violent games make you more violent, or less, or what?

I don't *usually* run around yelling HADOOOOKEN after playing violent video games. However, I also don't typically play fighting games, or even games where violence is a primary factor, just as GTA.

In Adventure and RPG games, which I do play regularly, you just kill people with no pants, and they deserve to die, so I don't feel bad about it in the least.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:39 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I think violent video games can inspire an already stupid person to do even stupider things. But that's obviously not the games' fault. It's the fault of whoever is responsible for said stupid person. I'm not going to say that violent games and violent crime can't be related, but correlation does not imply causality. In short, if your kid is a moron, or maladjusted, don't give them any more ideas, but let the ones that can handle it play whatever they want.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:02 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Same idea, different medium:

Anyone remember the movie The Program? There was a scene in the ORIGINAL theatrical cut that had to be excised. That scene was, right after the first bar scene, all of the ESU players are sitting around and the alcoholic quarterback decided to go lie in the middle of the road on the double-yellow lines as cars raced past. The other players followed suit.

Well somewhere in the Mid-West, a couple kids thought this would be a "Cool idea" and emulated the actors. Needless to say they were road-pizza and the studio cut the scene and redistributed the film to theatres. That scene didn't even make it onto the American release of the DVD (although I did hear it was on the Canadian release).

Brian is exactly right... these things don't make people stupid, but they give the stupid more stupid ideas.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I don't know what the official research says, but the media seems to be quick to blame violent video games for violent acts without any consideration for extraneous variables (such as the criminal in question being drawn to the violent videogames because of a pre-existing violent nature.)

I play a crapload of fighting games. I'd say at least a third of the titles in my library contains the words fighter, warrior, or samurai. In fact if they ever come out with a came called "Samurai Warrior Fighters" I'll shit my pants. I also have two black belts. So, obviously, I have some kind of inherent interest in violence. But do I commit it? No. Plenty of opportunities have presented themselves for me to fight (such as someone saying "hey bitch, let's go") but I always use words to resolve the situation.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 12:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

So yet another nature vs. nurture argument...

It seems to me that if you have an unhealthy obsession with something and you think that it could damage your social relationships because of it (watching violence gets you turned on and makes you want to kill people), stop doing those activities.

The same argument could be applied to porn, alcohol, controlled substances, unhealthy lifestyles, etc...

Source: Mark 9:43-48.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 1:09 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

eddie_babby wrote:
Source: Mark 9:43-48.


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